This is PRE-Retcon Beyonder, you know, before LT could do shit to him and pulled out that asswipe explanation. R2 - 5 members of the Beyonders race (incursion) face the 5 members of the Omega Council. . Pre retcon beyonder was stronger than all of marvel multiverse combined with exception of TOAA. Share Sort by: Best. Anyway Beyonder is infinitely more powerful than most of the shit in marvel including multiversal threats like Galactus and Thanos. lmao Also classic Marvel supporters. And post retcon… well Peter Parker had his power for one billionth of a second a rewrote all of reality. Somebody can ask the following members to give input here though. Even though most of Beyonder's feats in SW are still canon, Doom's statement could have *only* been in reference to POST-retcon (ie. Originally posted by. Not only that he struggled heavily against madrakk and trust me Beyounder is infinty stronger than Mandrakk. No, that was post-retcon Beyonder. Beyonder was an incredibly powerful alien entity from Marvel comics who would becoming a recurring antagonist for several story-arcs, he was considered to be the single most dangerous threat the collective Marvel multiverse had ever faced and was compared numerous times to a Supreme Being whose power so greatly eclipsed those found in. Basically all Dragonball characters ever created in their most powerful form fight PR BEYONDER all at the same time. British_Tea_Company • 7 yr. 9 years ago. Both strike an ambiguous pose when it comes to creating a universe. @kingkronos said: @Pwok21 said:. When The Pre-Retcon Molecule Man(with the Infinite portion of The Beyonder's Powers)fought The Beyonder, they were stated to be "2 of the mightiest being in ALL. WF Mxy vs Pre Retcon Beyonder is basically picking which company you like more : DC or Marvel. R1: Pre-Retcon Beyonder Takes Low-Mid Difficulty. Yeah Mxy is tough as shit, and probably wont go down. Pre-Retcon Beyonder just erases the Throne of Heroes, killing every single servant because servants are copies of heroes, made using information from the Throne of Heroes Or he could just wipe out the entire Fate universe and everything outside itPre-Retcon Beyonder kills Thanos no matter what the circumstances are. He is a cosmic cube which is an Omni-dimensional object that can expand infinitely but that is only a limited part of him because he limits himself. The Beyonder is millions of times more powerful than the combined power in the multiverse which includes the Living Tribunal - Scan 1. Batman with prep vs Beyonder. Most being have failed, and only two holds the hope of all creation. Composite-DC/Vertigo's Infinite Hierarchy is far. 9 K. It took 3 of the Beyonders to take down the same LT. The Beyonder is bloodlusted. We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. The Beyonder, a young member of an ancient race known as the Beyonders, was made aware of the Marvel Universe due to an 'accident' orchestrated by the other Beyonders involving Owen Reece. Win by death, KO, incapIf we argue that Pre-Retcon Beyonder is not in his initial state in this match-up, then he might actually get defeated by the Scarlet King. The events of. With 1 year of prep Doom could probably bridge the gap. If this is pre retcon then beyonder. Mismatch. The Beyonders have nothing to do with Pre Retcon Beyonder. #2. Thanos w IG and heart of the universePre-Retcon Beyonder is infinitely more powerful than anyone not omnipotent. The. Though with infinite power he is far more concerned about his place in life after being the all and everything within his realm he tries to understand the concepts of Life, Death, and Desire all things that he want experience. Hey guy's! aaj jo mai batane jaa rha hoon #Marvel ke most powerful character jo sirf marvel multiiverse me hi nhi balki dusre companies ke multiverse se bada. as omnipotent deities in their respective realities, the OAA Dominates the Hoi Realm. The people at Marvel Comics figured it was a dumb idea, so they changed (or retconned) it. Gan and Crimson King are basically super-amped versions of P. Team 1 = Two Grain Pre-Retcon Beyonder. 14 years ago. Fight takes place in an empty multiverse. Beyonder won't evenn make any difference more than the ant. R2: God stomps. so the 1st retcon beyonder. Been done here on the vine. Galactus is fodder here. About Pre-retcon/Classic Beyonder. Pre-Retcon Beyonders was described to be like a child compared to the Beyonders we are seeing now. PR Beyonder tanked a blast that would of shattered billions of dimensions and he was bullying PR MM who repaired the multiverse with a gesture. 1. 14 years ago. Manhattan's league. " lord marvel is said to be omnipotent and he can get smacked up. Lucifer is a different beast. The rest of the rounds Marvel is pretty dominant, maybe they could do something in the final round. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast. You do realize Pre-Retcon Beyonder is like, the second or third most powerful comic book character ever, while Anti-Monitor wouldn't even be in the Top 10. Wiki Points. The Pre-Retcon Beyonder casually eliminated Death from the universe and could have wiped out the universe in a snap. He was the TOAA of own multiverse, separate to that of the Marvel multiverse before he came across the. Pre-Retcon Beyonder was also omnipotent "And another "slight" parameter. PR Beyonder curbstomps. Beyonder isnt really known for prep anyways. Post Retcon the Beyonder was part cosmic cube along with Owen. Pre-retcon beyonder can't do anything to sun wukong. I don’t know anything about Anos Voldigoad, but Beyonder beats pretty much anyone so I’ll. deactivated-5d755a684b00b. which. Jmarshmallow. 2. 0. Thanos wins this. Forum Posts. TOAA has complete control over every universe including 616. The only other non-Omnipotent characters in Marvel who might even rival a bloodlusted pre-Retcon Beyonder for one are the Infinite Infinites and Divine Creator VIA narrative wanking. The Beyonder is far, far beyond a Multiversal. I think Sun Wukong wins because he managed to achieve Nirvana which according to Buddhist teachers is transcendence of all concepts. Battles. Many People are Underestimating Pre Retcon Beyonder in The Comments but they are forgetting some thing. Within the beyond realm, he's supposed to be omnipresent. Pre Retcon Beyonder was the original TOAA before today's TOAA was established. Beyonder Spider-Man vs Naruto, MHA, Bleach, One Piece, Magi, Umineko, Sailor Moon and Saint Seiya verses. The Darkest Knight (Man who laughs) vs The Beyonder. But it wont be easy by no means. The Beyonder has always been a child-like being, which makes him very dangerous. -Both at 1-A -I wonder which Beyonders are stronger now since the The Beyonders recently got upgraded into 1-A. It's stated so multiple times throughout the comics. He was the TOAA of his own multiverse, separate to that of the Marvel multiverse, before he came across the. Imagion all he powers in the Marvel Multiverse (which is infinite), not just the Multiverse but also every being in it, and emptyness (which is also infinite) beyond it (blank pages) Even Stan Lee stated in an interview in the 80s, that Beyonder was supose to represent the power the writers had. As a result, for his experiment, he. 2. PR Beyonder curbstomps. . @whydama: well beyonder was stated to be millions of times more powerful than all the. Tons of awesome Beyonder wallpapers to download for free. . Round 3: All-Mighty vs TOAA. He’s stronger than the one above all who is pretty much god above god. Sorry this is turning into a minor RT haha,. He. The Beyonder is a cosmic entity of immense power. The Pre-Retcon Beyonder is ery powerful, but not powerful enough to beat the one above all. Well COIE Anti Monitor, as powerful as he may be, is actually a little out of his league here. Pre-Retcon Beyonder ruins them casually. User Lists: 0We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. 5 years ago. This pre retcon Beyonder. Round 2: CAS VS PR Beyonder with Living Tribunal. 1 year ago. May 26, 2023. Beyonder even realized he was the Pre-Retcon one too lol Not to mention Beyonder detailing Doc Strange's win con over him, tailor made for Loki and proven when he and Sylvie enchanted Alioth, who. Victory conditions: for the beyonder it is to destroy the entire race of time lords, for the time lords it is killing or making the beyonder surrender. Aetherius is a larger infinity than Oblivio and encompasses its entirety, existing as a static realm of pure Anuic Light where all things exist in pure, timeless harmony. Clearly neither is the GEB - but in the sense prior to the retcons he was a character whose will defined reality around him and he was infinitely more powerful than anyone else on. Once a lowly lab technician desperate for recognition, Owen Reece miraculously became one of the most powerful beings in existence, the Molecule Man, while fixing an atomic device. THe nature and effects of the Retcon are irrelevant. The Crimson King decides he's bored and decides to start trolling other verses. the_doctor. If this is pre retcon then beyonder. 2. Prepare for. The Beyonder has been retconned. Period. Yeah. Pre-Retcon Beyonder just wishes Spectre to be gone and that's it. BEYONDERSIn fact, Pre-Retcon Beyonder had a completely different origin than being a child unit. His accident poked a pinhole into the universe of a child Beyonder, and the energy from that universe empowered him. Basically all Dragonball characters ever created in their most powerful form fight PR BEYONDER all at the same time. R3 - Inhuman/Mutant Beyonder faces the 5. Beyonder stomp beyond comprehension. ago. Pre-Retcon Beyonder. Pre Retcon Beyonder VS Azathoth 179 results 1 2 3 4 #1 Edited By deactivated-5fb6c77c8d900 I see alot of extrenely OP character being pitted against. Doom stated the LifeForce >>> the power of Beyonder. And the SCP verse is on par with the Dark Tower when it comes to sheer size and scale. so i think the only characters that can beat him are tier 0 characters like boundless. The All-Mighty (SCP) vs TOAA, Pre-Retcon Beyonder, and Oblivion (Marvel) All of them at their strongest. The mightiest beings (Living Tribunal) are microbes to him. The Two fight in the beyond realm. Pre-retcon: The universe was his plaything. Beyonder still probably loses to Thought Robot Superman, Final Batsuit Batman, Anti-Crisis Wonder Woman, Lucifer Morningstar and Michael Demiurgos, Perpetua, the Darkest Knight, true form Darkseid,. No prep and no knowledge. Specificity of the Beyonder is that everything he thinks is real, and. It's similar to how using the Super Exciting guides for SSJ Multipliers should not take away from Goku's feats in 1990 when his SSJ form alone in the Namek Saga was far above a Galaxy busting Freiza. FollowRound 5: Pre-Retcon Molecule Man vs God Emperor Doom Round 6:Pre-Retcon Beyonder vs God Emperor Doom Bonus Round: Protege vs God Emperor Doom This thread is archived New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast comments sorted by Best Top New Controversial Q&A GregLeagueGamingAlt •. . PR Beyonder was somehow tricked by dr doom and lost his power which is dumb tbh. The Beyonder and the Molecule Man, also known as Owen Reece, have a complex and tumultuous relationship. Beyonder was everything inside the Multi-verse. 0. While Bruce may have had god's full power (and I doubt that he did) he lacks the intelligence to use it, even Mxy does more. 3. Adviser (Vs)Pre- Retcon Beyonder would not be that much powerful if he came now. This is way larger than the entire Marvel verse and DC verse. well omnipotent. A. OPM can't even defeat Post-retcon Beyonder, let alone Pre-retcon. Morals off. People already think Pre-Retcon Beyonder is around the One Above All (directly below, equal, or above), so this new big bad is gonna be busted in a confusing way, since a fraction of his is power. @Ziro: Pre-Retcon Beyonder got his powers taken away by Dr. pre retcon molecule man vs. Problem is pre retcon Beyonder is just. The Beyonder realm might be a million times bigger than the entire Marvel Multiverse combined but in the end it's still part of the larger multiverse. Bait? 1 year ago. Prime Brock Lesnar, Prime Mike Tyson, A Neanderthal Male,Prime Andre the Giant, A. ago. Pre-Retcon Beyonder would easily beat Lucifer Morningstar, and would probably stalemate TOAA and MoM. (God) 2. deactivated-5ffd6af867550. The Crimson King from The Dark Tower fights The Pre-Retcon Beyonder from Marvel. Thelastmlg said: thought robot is around baseline high hyperversal while beyonder is stronger that everyone in the marvel multiverse combined times some millions which includes the living tribunal and if i not wrong multi-eternity which both are baseline high hyperversal. Pre-Retcon Beyonder is honestly far less impressive than Molecule man, at least current molecule man. R1: Everyone of the verses is at their peak. Beyonder - vs - Beyonder # 3. TOAA is God of Marvel while PR Beyonder is a much bigger god. Pre-retcon Beyonder is the be all-end all of ALL comicbook characters. The beyonder is a person from another plane of existence called the beyond which is larger than the marvel multiverse. About Press Copyright Contact us Creators Advertise Developers Terms Privacy Policy & Safety How YouTube works Test new features NFL Sunday Ticket Press Copyright. "Pre retcon beyonder is omnipotent, so can easily take care of the Spectre," omipotent does not make a auto win. The pre-retcon beyonder is aware of the writer/publishers and can threatening them so that possibly plot resistance. If he can beat beyonder, he wins 10/10 because he would know the correct path in every timeline, which he exists in, because he is omnipresent. icecream1991. Pre-Retcon Beyonder vs. Pre-Retcon Beyonder is honestly far less impressive than Molecule man, at least current molecule man. Follow 474. 3 years ago. Not to say he's necessarily just a planetary threat now. There it, the respect thread for Pre-Retcon Beyonder. The Pre-Retcon Beyonder is literally millions of times more powerful than the Marvel creation which contains infinite multiverses upon infinite multiverses upon infinite multiverses and so on into infinity. So I might be missing something. -Protege copied Beyonder powers. #6 Edited By DC_Marvel_1000. We can actually prove that Pre-Retcon Beyonder is fodder to Composite-DC. -5. R. Lucifer is not omnipotent. Has no equal or superior, Created Heaven’s (which could be a Universe) with a word and is just flat out stated to be omnipotent with. Cosmic armor supes needs a downgrade soon. ) along with the Great Houses of Gallifrey (A. Thor Vs Justice League : Vs AVENGERS : 12 Cosmic Beings in Marvel :. Pre Retcon Beyonder is TOAA of a world much much larger than Marvel Multiverse. . deactivated-5d45fd7ce1a16. #28 ovy7. Pre Retcon Beyonder vs Dr Doom. There is literally nothing that OPM could do to even affect him. You see, the thing is that Pre Retcon Beyonder is Secret Wars Beyonder, so it’s not completely incorrect in a away, but all these events are taking after the retcon, if you get what I mean. Death from what I remember had no power of Lucifer, only Destiny did - so I think it's safe to assume she scales below him. As a scientist, Doctor Manhattan is all about doing things step by step. 3. I would take the race of the Beyonders against the race. Beyonder preretcon upgrade to 1A. Wiki Points. SCP-682's adaptive powers are seriously NLF-prone. Originally posted by the DarkoneBefore they were retconned, Beyonder and Molecule Man we nearly omnipotent. deactivated-5b3daad020468. Pre-retcon The Beyonder was omnipotent in his Beyondverse, outside the Multiverse, and his powers were similar to those of the Living Tribunal who was a Multiverse level entity but the original beyonder was stated to have been the strongest character in the marvel universe in terms of nigh omnipotence and omniscience. Both are in character. Scarlet King (SCP) vs Pre-Retcon Beyonder and Pre-Retcon Molecule Man (Marvel) R2:The scarlet demon, WOW I am speechless. ago. I can only speak of Pre-Retcon Beyonder since that is who I am familiar with, but pre-Retcon Beyonder was explicitly a being outside of the Marvel totality. Post-retcon: The planet or localized area of space is his plaything. Beyonder (Earth-616)/Quotes Category page. I think you could argue rather convincingly that he's the 2nd moat powerful character in all of fiction, only behind TOAA. If i had to lowkey choose one blindly, i'd go with PRB. Motivation: Both want to kill each other. Its not like the writer of marvel has dominon only over character. A Pre-Retcon Beyonder is beyond the Galaxy, beyond Dimensions, beyond the Multi Verse and should easily stomp the absolute shit out of whatever pseudo intellectual Neil Gaiman fake mystic mumbo. Pre retcon beyonder was more of a plot device than a character lol. #1. It is capable of becoming a Multiversal threat, but it's vastly weaker than any of the Apollyon-Class SCPs. He'd be incredibly more versetile with his approach in the fight. Regulator Thanos wins, both these characters are above LT in power scope, however the HOTU. R1: Post retcon Beyonder vs Bleach verse. At that time, The Beyonder was more powerful than the Living Tribunal and thus everything else in the Marvel Universe. Poll Shinra Banshoman vs Pre Retcon Beyonder and Lucifer Morningstar (115 votes) Beyonder and Lucifer erase Shinra on accident 16%. • 1 year ago. Phoenix vs Pre-Retcon Beyonder = probably Beyonder unless we are using the level where Phoenix possessed the power to destroy him. 2. Bloodlusted. Beyonder stomps. Azrael and Time(Discworld) 4. The scarlet demon is omnipresent throughout the narrative stacks and normal SK is just a mere avatar of the scarlet demon. @Metalslash said: MJJ wins. Has no equal or superior, Created Heaven’s (which could be a Universe) with a word and is just flat out stated to be omnipotent with. Now I made a lengthy blog detailing the powers of the Beyonder, Post-Retcon. Even The. R4 - Pre Retcon Beyonder takes on the 5 and the Defenders members at the same time. TOAA wins either way though. Victini could arguably do it if you allow Pokedex entries. #1 Edited By LightningGod67. Pre-retcon has been stated to be millions of time stronger than all the power in the multiverse combined. Both sides are in character but determined to win. Thanos wins this. "No other force or power in existence could. Round 1: CAS vs. The omnipotent Beyonder is on a destructive rampage and has decided to destroy the entire Marvel omniverse. Neutral Omega Beyonder has better feats. Seriously at his peak height, Pre Retcon Beyonder was. Join this channel to get access to perks:Credits to THZCheck out YFV (@YFVillainYT). Phoenix attacks Beyonder with all her power, Beyonder don't even flinch. Follow 12318. LT has no jurisdiction over Phoenix which is why he. Beyonder S T O M P S. He has way better feats, unless you can provide me a showing for Reinhard superior to being beyond comprehension of Pre-Retcon MM, as well as being above all of Marvel. Beyonder has way more hax, the Glory is literally non-sentient, and Beyonder has an extreme AP advantage, seeing as the Glory is only possibly baseline High 1-B, and Beyonder is well over 10,000,000 times more powerful than almost every High 1-B in Marvel. And with this analogy, Alovenus/Ruphas can create L1A character A in fiction A, But can easily defeated By character B In fiction B. Let me remind you that SCP verse is much bigger than both Marvel and DC. She easily could hold an infinite-D multiverse in her hand, while Beyonder's best feat was to shake an infinite-D. The Beyonder at his full power pre-retcon is omnipotent. (Like many of these fights) Universal Steve. Powers are basically the same thing. Thanks!!!!!fact, Pre-Retcon Beyonder had a completely different origin than being a child unit. Dreamxd26. Pretty sure it wasnt stated to end so. This is way larger than the entire Marvel verse and DC verse. Beyonder on the other hand, flip-flops back and forth as to how powerful he really is because of the inconsistent showings of entities that he has fought and the inconsistency of Beyonder's own showings with his own statements for instance: Beyonder was stated to be Million X Infinity the size of a Multiverse but this is mathematically. He. CCC Gilgamesh vs Pre-Retcon Beyonder. This topic is locked from further discussion. Pre-Retcon Beyonder wins fairly convincingly. Do not make any Thanos with HOTU vs threads. However PR Beyonder has more power than basically all of existence and attacks that destroyed multiverses were nothing to. Ruphas not in baseline L1A, Ruphas can easily defeated Alovenus which is rated L1A character. The Living Tribunal was able to stop the Infinity Gaunlet from working, while PR Molecule Man stated to be stronger than all other beings in the Multiverse, Including Abstracts, and the Living Tribunal . The only thing the Beyonder wasn’t able to do was truly understand what it was like to not be the Beyonder. Which then would put the DC team a few steps below the over-void - DC's prime meta. I don't think that Pre-retcon Beyonder in pic but. Though with infinite power he is far more concerned about his place in life after being the all and everything within his realm he tries to understand the concepts of Life, Death, and Desire all things that he want experience. PR Beyonder is way beyond than Thanos with IG. He is the closest thing to omnipotent without being omnipotent. Beyonder erases him from existence. Pre retcon beyonder was absolutely omnipotent, the equal of the one above all. MJJ's powers keep increasing exponentialy. so the Doomslayer stomps. Lucifer is way above pre Retcon BeyonderPRE RETCON BEYONDER goes to the DRAGON BALL universe and fights all Dragonball characters at the same time - this includes Zeno Sama, The Angels, Whis, All Gods of Destruction, Broly, Goku, Vegeta, etc. Interesting. Still, Pre-retcon Beyonder stomps here. Pre-Retcon Beyonders was described to be like a child compared to the Beyonders we are seeing now. Beyonder uses his prep to observe Doom preparing,. TOAA wins because it's stated that Pre-Retcon Beyonder had control of the entire Multiverse excluding 616. Any of the Smash gods could do it, and so would the beings above. Pre-Retcon Beyonder vs. ago. Pre-Retcon Beyonder (as in, during Secret Wars II) was more powerful than the in-universe hand of the author. The beyonder can warp reality and time as well as creating a real life setting. PR Beyonder had full backing by Marvel Boss, Jim Shooter to do anything he wanted. All indications are that. It's stated so multiple times throughout the comics. However personally i believe the Overvoid, which is the source of Cosmic Armour Supermans power, is superior to the Beyonder Realm. From what I know of Sun Wukong, he doesn't even come close to him. Pre-Retcon Beyonder was Omnipotent! The comics said so. Forum Posts. The Beyonder is far, far beyond a Multiversal. Hesperus 25 d . Pre-Retcon Beyonders was. The original Beyonder was a failed Cosmic Cube, the second one was a failed Cosmic Power, and the third one was a failed Cosmic Force. OPM can't even defeat Post-retcon Beyonder, let alone Pre-retcon. Possibly the most powerful character in creation. Doctor strange opens one in front and back. The beyonder has way better feats. "Pre retcon beyonder is omnipotent, so can easily take care of the Spectre," omipotent does not make a auto win. Pre-retcon Beyonder was significantly more powerful than the Living Tribunal. A. 5 years ago. HOM wanda. He was stated to be millions of times powerful than the Entire Marvel Multiverse Combined which even included The Living Tribunal and Molecule Man and We all know that Living Tribunal is almost as Powerful As Michael Demiurgos. If that's the case, Team 2 stomps. #1 Thanatic. Wiki Points. He was basically like if God tried to create a champion capable of doing just about everything that. At the time this storyline was written Beyonder Spider-Man would stomp. Reason? Preretcon beyonder can stand against TOAA and LT. That was the whole point of "Secret Wars II. Team 2 = Fusion mode. Jan 22, 2017. Round 1: CAS vs. He's about cause and effect and. Post-retcon Beyonder loses hands-down. 4 years ago. Anti-Monitor's probably on the scale of pre-retcon Molecule Man, a foe that Beyonder was able to beat. Which effectively means that they give Beyonder their sunday. #1 quandaledingle. Beyonder was a formless mindless white space above the Multiverse, made purely. Like, guys, just focus on like a planetary thing or even a system wide thing. #5. FIRST COSMOS. For reference Pre-Retcon Beyonder is stronger than the Infinity Gauntlet by leaps and bounds but a Cosmic Cube is stated and shown to be vastly inferior to the Infinity Gauntlet. 7. He represented everything outside the Marvel Universe, while TOAA represents MU. Fight takes place in current DC universe. Third, Mxy would be erased of existence by.